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Kilarra
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Does this mean if an image has the same pose as an already existing image its considered a copy? For example, in the image you are using above that kind of a pose is kind of "cool" and im sure it would be used alot, and anime guys with long hair and a mysterious gaze are something im sure alot of people draw. So the way i see this its first come first serve then no one can ever submit a anime guy in this pose who has long hair? o.O If thats the way it is, I personally find it rather unfair for anyone to be aloud to claim rights to a certain pose for a character with similar features such as long hair or whatever it may be... Tracing/eyeballing is one thing but creating your own stuff that just so happens to be similar to someone elses is entirely different. let me just give a simple example:

person #1 had a homework asignment to draw a 'classical' yellow pencil. he rather liked it, scaned it and submited it, and it gets aproved.

person #2 is bored, sees a yellow pencil on his desk and decides to draw it and he too likes the results and scans it. person #2's friend, to cure his friends boredom shos him Gaiaonline. person #2 finds the art section and decides to submit his yellow pencil drawing.

Now wouldn't it be unfair for one person to be able to submit a picture just because they got here first while someone else can't because somethig like it is already there? no matter what the circumstances, unless its obvious it was traced from the original or eyeballed (which is teh same at tracing if your good at it).

*edit for some typo*


Poses can't be copyrighted. If two artists draw the same thing, the pictures won't look the same. Similar, yes, but they'll obviously be two different interpretations of the same subject matter. In a figure drawing class, a dozen people might sit around the same model and every single drawing would be different from the rest.

Copies are not the same thing, and the guide's pretty clear on what counts as a copy. It's usually pretty obvious, once the source image is in front of you, to determine whether something has been directly eyeballed or traced. I wouldn't worry about drawing the same 'thing' as someone else, as long as your work isn't drawn directly from an existing image.
3nodding The guide does say that you should change a few things about the body pose (Like shift an arm, or a leg or something) but as long as the image isn't recognizable, or the body isn't line for line, it's alright.

I mean, they print entire books on photographs to use for references.
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I mean, they print entire books on photographs to use for references.


Indeed they do. The trouble is, a lot of people tend to think copying is 'referencing', when it really, really isn't.
how do i put my art work on the art gallery
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.....this is kinda bs...but if thats how it is here then i guess i have no choice do i...sigh...and i spent so much time drawing the piece too...sigh...honesty though you can't say the characters aren't ours in the sense, "we" ourselves took time to draw it, and not scan or trace it, but from the point of the character belongs to the artist that has a copyright on it, i can understand that...i think you should post the rules of whats considered copy on the main page of when submitting. otherwise you just kinda tick off us new to the site, when saying we didn't draw it.
So if I draw a character from a game in a totally different style of art in different poses than featured in the game I'm copying? I realize that of course the character is copyrighted to the game creators, but it doesn't seem fair that people can post "fan art" for specific characters. As long as people obviously give credit to the creator and identify the character this sort of thing should be allowed.
Well I never new any of this and I'm realy new at this game so its great that some one told me this. heart
greenish_rain
So if I draw a character from a game in a totally different style of art in different poses than featured in the game I'm copying?


No. If you draw it in a different style, different pose, etc., you are fine. I think you misread the post.
Raquel_Cassul
.....this is kinda bs...but if thats how it is here then i guess i have no choice do i...sigh...and i spent so much time drawing the piece too...sigh...honesty though you can't say the characters aren't ours in the sense, "we" ourselves took time to draw it, and not scan or trace it, but from the point of the character belongs to the artist that has a copyright on it, i can understand that...i think you should post the rules of whats considered copy on the main page of when submitting. otherwise you just kinda tick off us new to the site, when saying we didn't draw it.


You mean like this rule?

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Copies/Traces = Traces and drawings copied by eye are not allowed in the Art Arena. Taking an already existing image and copying it, then submitting it to the Art Arena is not allowed. We ask that all drawings be original. You can take an already existing character from an anime/video game/comic/etc., but be creative and come up with your own pose. Do not just copy someone else's pose. For more information on copying, please refer to our Copy FAQ.


on this page?
http://www.gaiaonline.com/arena/index.php?show=upload

I mean they don't spell it out for you, but the "Copy FAQ" is a link to this thread.
wink these r very good posters all of them. even the the poster of the guy with the metal arm that a realllllllllllly good poster i love that one
thnx 4 da info! blaugh

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