Welcome to Gaia! :: Artists Alley Information Compilation | Forum

Register FaceBook Login Login

 

 
GST

Welcome to Gaia's forums, where millions of members gather to discuss random stuff, make new friends,
complain about life, argue about nothing, laugh at dumb pictures, discuss serious issues and/or curse like sailors.

Lurking is creepy. Quit skulking in the shadows and join the conversation!

Register to reply

Advertisement

Most intimidating thing about your first AA?

What if I don't sell anything? 0.23456790123457 23.5% [ 133 ]
What if I don't break Even? 0.11992945326279 12.0% [ 68 ]
What if they HATE my work? 0.2663139329806 26.6% [ 151 ]
What if I sell out of prints too soon? 0.040564373897707 4.1% [ 23 ]
All of the other artists are going to think I suck! 0.21869488536155 21.9% [ 124 ]
Other (Please share!) 0.11992945326279 12.0% [ 68 ]
Total Votes: 567
Tags: artists  alley  guide  information 
Share:  
forum:6, topic:21610915
[Kako]
I'm really glad that came up. I've been leaning towards Ka-blam! lately over comiXpress, but I'll be going towards the latter as well. biggrin


You too! I initially was going to go with Ka-blam! since they were the most affordable of the three--but I guess it's true when they say you get what you pay for. Also, while I had heard in the past that ComiXpress was a bit of a hassle as far as getting their orders out go, I also heard they were really getting their act together, so it sounds like they've really come along. 3nodding
 
     
 
Yeah, they had some major press issues earlier this year, and replaced the entire press to solve them, but they've really been busting their butts to make up the lost time, and have been nothing but awesome to me while I've been working with them. Seriously, they sprung themselves to overnight me one of my packages, and started another order a full day before I paid them (because I mentioned in an email about sleeping during the day)... that's really good service there.

The reason I went to them over Ka-blam to start with was more a matter of printing specifications... they don't actually advertise it on their site (because they can't automatically generate quotes for it), but they will do essentially "spot coloring," where if you have only a few pages in color they'll print only those pages in color, and the rest in black and white, at the respective prices for each... I have a weird combination of b/w and color in my comic, and REALLY don't want to pay the higher color price when I only have half a dozen or so color pages in a chapter, which is the only option Ka-blam offers.

Really, it's been a matter of much more awesome customer service on one side than the other, though. Well, and the fact that, as I reorder for later cons (because I do about six a year, and may add a seventh this year too), the price will end up cheaper from them than from Ka-blam anyway.

I still can't say anything for Ka-Blam's print quality, though... my con starts in the morning, and I gave up on the promo materials yesterday and whipped up some ghetto-tastic cards at work instead.
     
Hi guys. I'm prepping for some cons and some of my prints have to be ordered from other folks to process (like at DA), and I wonder how you guys estimate what to get.

For example, if I sold 100-150 prints over 2-3 days at a Top Ten convention (~8000-9000 people in attendance), would you assume that those quantities are good for another convention? Or do you find that nothing you do to guess works?

Then breaking it down further, if I know that 3-5 prints are the most popular and the rest only usually sell 2-4 times during the convention, do you order a lot more of those and just keep a few of the others in reserve?

Thanks for any thoughts on this. And if you have experiences with particular conventions could you let me know your thoughts? One convention I dont' know much about is JACON (average attendance as well as popular fandoms), and the other con may be a Top 5 convention like AX.

I also don't know anything about comic conventions with an anime/manga focus and wanted to hear if I should even bother stocking up lots (as comic fans aren't always manga fans).
 
     
 
ninja
     
This is a very sexy thread ninja

I'm on a convention committee team and I've written a FAQ a bit like this to try and help newcomer artists~ xd I know it can be pretty daunting. There's so much to dooo gonk (Artists Alley-er of three years)
 
     
 
Dev Kimiko
This is a very sexy thread ninja

I'm on a convention committee team and I've written a FAQ a bit like this to try and help newcomer artists~ xd I know it can be pretty daunting. There's so much to dooo gonk (Artists Alley-er of three years)


Definately. I've only got a few months till my first. ;_;
     
[kako]/Al is currently: On Hiatus
I might actually use some of the information from this when doing the AA setup for the con I help out with this year, it's really helpful. ^_^ I even actually made use of the Duct Tape and Scissors I wouldn't have thought to take along otherwise.

I definately learned to make sure you have friends at the con, though. ^_^ I have a tendancy at cons anyway to forget to eat and drink, but if not for friends stopping by periodically, I likely would have suffered dehydration this weekend since I didn't get away from the table very often. But I had fun and actually made back most of what I spent getting the table and getting in, so it was all worth it!
 
     
 
This thread is great!
And no, you can't extrapolate too much what you will make at a smaller con from what you made per person at a larger con. The reason? Sometimes the audience is subtly different! If you've never been to that con before then you may as well use it as a good estimate, especially if you plan on selling at another con after that any way.
     
I don't do prints myself, so I'm going off of what friends sell. ^^ The people I've learned a lot of my Artist Alley stuff from usually just get a stack of each of their prints, keep them all in a folder, and carry over leftovers from one con to the next. But then, they're also "cutting back" to only 7 conventions this year, so they're going to enough to be able to sell them, too. If you are doing another con in the near future (a couple months or so), and have the space for it, it probably wouldn't hurt to have leftovers since you can carry them over, but not knowing the attendance would make it hard to guess at quantities...

I would, though, say you have the right idea with ordering prints based on their popularity. If you already know your picture of X sells much better than the one of Y, then it only makes sense to order more of X so you can potentially sell more of them. 3nodding
 
     
 
I've been to cons where one print sells out, and then fails to sell at all at another convention. Sometimes it can be strange and fickle... different conventions have different tastes.

The same can be said of fanart. It depends on what the fanbase is like at that particular convention.

Here's a few general tips from me from my AA FAQ xd (The full thing is about twice as long)

PREPARATION
Consider your market

What sort of products will you be selling, who do you expect will want to buy it, and how popular do you think it will be? Balancing the budget-book and being confident in your sales are important things; the market for selling cosplay accessories or badges will be different from the market for a Naruto Doujinshi, which in turn will be different from the market for an original artwork or publication.

As a general tip, cute, cheap and accessible merchandise sells well. Things such as badges, accessories, postcards and bookmarks are always popular because they're fun and inexpensive for the consumer. Fanart generally sells better than original art because the customer has already developed an attachment for that series or character. However, fanart relies on fanbases, so expect fanart from big popular series to move faster than an obscure niche title. Original artists fear not, for there is always an appreciation for great original artworks. If you're unsure what people would want to buy, a little market research never hurt. Ask around on convention and other online forums for feedback and advice.

Budget
The main priorities for your budget will be: a) the cost of the convention and table space itself, b) printing costs, and c) working out what kind of margin you can afford on your goods. It also helps to plan a guide of how much you need to sell in order to break even, and keep track of your sales during the convention. Remember, a lot of that cashflow on the day is covering costs you have already outlayed. Avoid the temptation to spend the cash in front of you unless it's profit.

Setting prices for your goods can be fickle; some customers may buy it at whatever the cost, but you should consider precedents set by other artists, the quality of your work, comparable merchandise prices, production costs, and the spending budgets of the people who are most likely to buy your products. Avoid underselling yourself; do what you feel is reasonable to yourself and the customer.

PRINTING
The basics – DPI and CMYK

DPI is 'Dots/pixels per inch' and refers to the resolution quality of an artwork. 300 DPI is the standard minimum for print design. This is important because it's really hard and time consuming to scale a picture UP for print quality. Therefore, it is always prudent to work at a high resolution for artworks that you want to print. An A3 picture at 300 DPI is roughly 3500x5000 pixels, whereas the average size of an image you put on the internet isn't going to be more than 1000 pixels in any one dimension (Around 72 DPI).

CMYK is Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and Black (Key). Unlike monitors and televisions which emit light and output to RGB (Red, Green, Blue), CMYK is an absorption of light on a surface. It's the colour method used by printers, and importantly, there are some colours which RGB can project but CMYK cannot (Such as extremely saturated colours). This can create problems when you go to print pictures from your computer, only to find they look duller on paper. This is most likely because your file is in RGB and some of the colours are outside of the spectrum of CMYK. For this reason it is important to either work with your files in CMYK, or save them as CMYK before you send them off to get printed. The option for changing colour format in Photoshop is listed under 'Image' -> 'Mode'

THE DAYS BEFORE

Get monies

And not necessarily of the spending kind. It is important to organise sufficient change for patrons; banks can easily provide you with bags of coins. Do this beforehand, as you will not be able to go to the bank on the day of the convention. Gold coins and small notes are the most important, but it's also good to have a buffer for when someone has a fifty dollar note to break.

Make sure you have what you need
Print off/write up any price lists and signs beforehand, as well as making sure you have all the equipment you need for sticking up said signs and display prints. Most fabric backing boards hate bluetac and stickytape; masking tape is your friend in this department. Invest in a box of rubberbands and consider how you are going to organise your notes and coins on the day (Cashbox, tin, waistpouch, pencilcase, etc...). Unless you're going to bolt it to the table, it's probably not worth investing in anything fancy to hold your money. Something inconspicuous and easily taken with you is often best.

Also know how much space you will have at your table in terms of organising your display. If you have a half-table and want to put postcards, badges and a display folder for your prints, it makes more sense to have an A4 folder, not an A3 one.

Plan how you'll get you and your stuff there
The last thing you want is to be half an hour late for the opening of the convention, or get stranded in the middle of nowhere on the wrong bus with several kilos of prints and folders hanging off one arm. Bump-in times will be advised by the convention organisers, but you will need to get there at least half an hour before opening in order to set up your table. Get some sleep, eat something for breakfast, and make sure you know how you're going to get to the convention. And importantly, how you'll get your stock there.

ON THE DAY

Eat!

This should not be understated! You would be surprised how easy one can forget to, well... eat food of substance when sitting at an Artist table. Especially on the first day, you'll have to get an early start in order to be at the venue on time to set up your table. So you're looking at a full day from 7am wake-up to 6pm pack-up. And unless you have a friend who can cover for you at length, chances are you'll be spending a lot of time at your table. Therefore I advise you to bring a trusty old bottle of water, something to snack on, and plan a time to take a break and eat a good solid meal. Artists cannot survive on Ramune and Pocky alone.
     
Hahhaa, Dev Kimiko, Songjewel and I just recorded a podcast about working the Artist Alley at Animazement, and we were very adament about EATING.
 
     
WIP = arg D:

Dear Editor Podcast
"Your aquarium is a barren wasteland where the seeds of life can find no purchase."
 
I know~ D': You'd think it'd be such a commonsense thing to eat, but it's so easy to forget. You end up staying at your table and not wanting to leave for too long in case you miss sales or something =u=

I had a fresh hamburger at Manifest and It was the best thing evaaar because I was so hungry.

I kept on forgetting to eat at Animania, I was so thirsty...
     
[ Taking a break from modding ]

I'd just like to say thanks to everyone who's supplied answers for the AA. It's really helping, because I'm hoping to Ai-Kon this year for the first time, not to mention I'm still somewhat young. I'm sure it'll help lots~♥

- Repa-Chan
 
     

dead and gone.
 
I know what you mean about not wanting to leave... I could have someone else watch my book sales, but I was also offering commissions, and for those I really had to be there myself (and I did rather well on commissions too).

When someone brought me a cheap basic hot dog from the concessions stand outside I could have kissed them. xd
     

New updates Fridays
http://emeraldwinter.net/meter/19.png
New poll--you rock for including Anime Weekend Atlanta in the choices! That's my main con right there! whee
 
     

Quick Reply

Enter both words below, separated by a space:

Can't read the text? Click here

Submit

We will be phasing out support for your browser soon.

Please upgrade to one of these more modern browsers.