Emaya
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...Whining about Ramy (or any other artist, really) is a sign of being incredibly starved for attention. Why not put the effort you would have spent slandering other artists on public forums, wikis, and DA journals into a more productive outlet, such as improving your own art?
Pfft. Everything your saying is completely reliant on the belief that whining artists are either crap or unpopular on the internet, yet let's be honest- a great majority of people who openly b***h about Ramy's work tends to have enough popularity and skill to prove a point.
I agree, Internet popularity says absolutely NOTHING about a person's technical skill or ability to succeed, and a person's reputation is based solely upon their actions- but how is this relevant at all to the people who b***h about him? Isn't it actually more relevant to Ramy instead? Nobody really gets a bad name from saying anything negative about him- since most self respecting artists hold pretty much the same stance, but Ramy's reputation on the internet is a pretty bad one, from art traces to purposeful miscategorization of deviations, down to the whole Senra incident last summer. Is it really so surprising that people find him a complete eyesore?
Besides, I think it speaks a lot when the only two people defending him so far happens to be people who draw like him.
@Luniara: There is no waste.
His own girlfriend won the auction sweatdrop
At least she should have as the end date/time of this auction has long been past.
I disagree- the "popular" people who whine about Ramy are dramabombs only looking for a pat on the back from their fan-base, when they are really in no position to do so. They put things in categories for optimum exposure, and not necessarily the correct ones. If they get bumped off the front page, they go nuts.
On reputation: This wasn't directed at any one poster in particular. Maybe it doesn't encompass all the people who rant about Ramy, but many of the well-known artists on DA who DO whine about them could go very, very far in improving their own technique. I don't want to name names, but it just seems like they're awful sourfaced about not having an even larger fanbase because Ramy just happens to appeal many people on DA. It's a silly power struggle, filled with jealousy and contemptuous bitching. It's a ridiculous race to the front page of Popular, and people tend to feel robbed if another artist "takes" what they felt was rightfully theirs.
If becoming more popular on DeviantArt is that important to those artists, then they should make their art more appealing to the majority of DA instead of crying about how someone else has already capitalized on DA's love of shine.
If you have any sense of dignity as an artist, you don't announce your hatred of others in the community. It lowers peoples' opinion of you as a decent person.
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As for him trying to grow as an artist- frankly acknowledgment of faults does not necessarily equate to actions. His works have developed from safe to safer, from glittery people to people who simply have wings. As viewers we see absolutely no artistic change, it's just the same thing over and over and frankly it's getting to a point where it's really REALLY old.
stare Heck just because some of us don't draw doesn't mean that we're blind.
I think there's the pressure on DA to upload only things people will want to see. In my opinion, you need to break free of DA in order to grow; it's not like he doesn't do things on the side. They're mostly in his Scraps gallery now, or floating around on his hard drive somewhere.
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Besides, I think it speaks a lot when the only two people defending him so far happens to be people who draw like him.
I'm his friend in real life, what do you want? He's one of the nicest guys I've ever met, seriously. I feel like I would fail him as a friend if I didn't try to defend him. I think if some of the people who have expressed their hatred of his art online met him face-to-face, they'd quiet down a little. Even if you don't like someone's art, you don't have to be rancorous towards them. There's little civility in people's criticism towards Ramy. I'm not saying they should sugarcoat everything, but the intentions matter. Most people just want to cut him down. But for anyone who would genuinely want to see him grow, he takes suggestions and constructive crit seriously.
I didn't actually think I'd have to defend myself, because my work speaks for itself.. but, my work on DA doesn't reflect my entire body of art (I choose to keep some of it on my personal gallery, for instance). I would say much of my fan art stuff reflects Ramy's and Sylvia's influences, but that was for the sake of making my summer financially stable. You need to find a line between stuff you're satisfied with as an artist, and stuff that will feed you. If you want to rag on me for trying to survive as an artist (though that doesn't seem your intention), that's fine. This has always been a dilemma in the art world. Personally, I'm tired of drawing anime, and am trying to move into more realistic stuff so that I can appeal to a broader audience (one outside of DeviantArt). Unlike Ramy, who wants to be a doctor or something, I do have plans to become a professional in my field (concept art? texture artist, etc etc), so I'm tweaking my style so I can pursue a job in it.
