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If people watching anime online is to blame for the industry slowly falling apart in the US, then I counter with the statement that lousy dub's are the reason we watch it online instead of purchasing it.


"Bad dubs" is an excuse primarily used by people who just don't want to pay for their anime.
Your Japanese Animation won't die unless you support it.

Buying the DVD's is not at all expensive, and new volume of it would come out like every 2 months. So you have plenty of time to save up for it.
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Vampirate ninja
well that really blows


I agree...
Jeschi Berzerker
The ******** internet has subbed episodes, live with it

I agree with you.
I Dout They'll Completly Abolish It..
They'd Have Too Many Pissed Off Fans ..
And If All Else Fails We Have The Subs Online...
And Maybe If They Cheapo's Out There Saved Their Movey And Bought The DVD's Like They Should Then Maybe This Topic Will Finally End....
Harutomo Kuzikasho
Jeschi Berzerker
The ******** internet has subbed episodes, live with it

I agree with you.




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Harutomo Kuzikasho
Jeschi Berzerker
The ******** internet has subbed episodes, live with it

I agree with you.

I disagree.

it's still not going to help the industry. If the industry dies out, they'll stop making episodes.


Either show some support or be a cheap a** fan trying to find as much episodes as possible on the internet.



Old-skool fan checking in here.

I've been an anime fan since I was twelve and I'm now twentysomething... ish. During that time I have seen the market absolutely explode (and yet I still can't get Weiss Kreuz on DVD because it never got a UK license. Go figure that) to the point that I can now walk into pretty much any major bookstore and grab translated manga from a 'manga' section. Back when I first got into anime and manga, you bought an overpriced and badly dubbed copy of Akira in which Kaneda was voiced by Leonardo from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, or you didn't buy anything at all. The 'manga' section in most bookstores was half a shelf next to a load of DC and Marvel TPBs, and it contained perhaps the same two or three overpriced volumes of Ranma 1/2 and Ironfist Chimni. If you wanted anything more adventurous, you had to get it imported and get the translations off the Net. Much of my manga collection is in Japanese, not because I can read it, but because when I was able to buy lots of it, there was no other way I was going to get to read the things I wanted to. That's now changed, and I'm glad of it.

It's not really surprising that a couple of companies are going under, though - the economy's in the crapper, the market is oversaturated, and there are too many small companies anyway. Manga was the Next Big Thing for a while back there and a lot of people got into it without really knowing what they were doing or having any real long-term plans simply to make a quick buck, and while a lot of good stuff got released, a fair amount of second-rate titles were bought and localized simply because they were manga and hey, kids love manga! Now the novelty's wearing off and people aren't as interested in buying any old manga or anime regardless of quality just because it's from Japan. Consequently sales will fall off and the smaller companies will go under or get bought out, and you'll be left with a handful of large companies that deal with damn near everything. This happens with every next big thing: lots of companies try their hands at it and a handful will thrive while the rest go under or get bought out by the big boys. The same thing happened with cars, with dotcom companies and with Western comics to name but three.

Geneon didn't really have a very good business model - releasing niche shows and charging a fortune for the box sets isn't really a sustainable way to run a company. They had no big-name shows and simply couldn't keep up with the rest of the pack, so they went under. This is probably going to happen a lot. It's very unlikely manga and anime will stop being released altogether, but it seems likely things will slow down somewhat. The market's glutted as it is.
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well that's just anime in america not the wolrd stare
then buy the dvd's
Ryuu_linh
well that's just anime in america not the wolrd stare
this goes for the world as well even in japan this is a issue in the anime world
Harutomo Kuzikasho
Jeschi Berzerker
The ******** internet has subbed episodes, live with it

I agree with you.


...

Aren't people like you two, with this kind of rotten attitude, the very root of this entire problem, as pointed-out by several people already? >_>
silvia lin
Old-skool fan checking in here.

I've been an anime fan since I was twelve and I'm now twentysomething... ish. During that time I have seen the market absolutely explode (and yet I still can't get Weiss Kreuz on DVD because it never got a UK license. Go figure that) to the point that I can now walk into pretty much any major bookstore and grab translated manga from a 'manga' section. Back when I first got into anime and manga, you bought an overpriced and badly dubbed copy of Akira in which Kaneda was voiced by Leonardo from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, or you didn't buy anything at all. The 'manga' section in most bookstores was half a shelf next to a load of DC and Marvel TPBs, and it contained perhaps the same two or three overpriced volumes of Ranma 1/2 and Ironfist Chimni. If you wanted anything more adventurous, you had to get it imported and get the translations off the Net. Much of my manga collection is in Japanese, not because I can read it, but because when I was able to buy lots of it, there was no other way I was going to get to read the things I wanted to. That's now changed, and I'm glad of it.

It's not really surprising that a couple of companies are going under, though - the economy's in the crapper, the market is oversaturated, and there are too many small companies anyway. Manga was the Next Big Thing for a while back there and a lot of people got into it without really knowing what they were doing or having any real long-term plans simply to make a quick buck, and while a lot of good stuff got released, a fair amount of second-rate titles were bought and localized simply because they were manga and hey, kids love manga! Now the novelty's wearing off and people aren't as interested in buying any old manga or anime regardless of quality just because it's from Japan. Consequently sales will fall off and the smaller companies will go under or get bought out, and you'll be left with a handful of large companies that deal with damn near everything. This happens with every next big thing: lots of companies try their hands at it and a handful will thrive while the rest go under or get bought out by the big boys. The same thing happened with cars, with dotcom companies and with Western comics to name but three.

Geneon didn't really have a very good business model - releasing niche shows and charging a fortune for the box sets isn't really a sustainable way to run a company. They had no big-name shows and simply couldn't keep up with the rest of the pack, so they went under. This is probably going to happen a lot. It's very unlikely manga and anime will stop being released altogether, but it seems likely things will slow down somewhat. The market's glutted as it is.


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