Endrael
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"Redimus Prime X" blah blah blah 1.) I honestly don't care who you are or how long you've been on the site. The point has zero bearing on your proposal, and your divorcing of my very obviously stated assumption about your tenure on this site based on the account number in order to make a poor attempt to club me over the head with it simply comes across as elitist asshattery. My statements were based on your rather poorly framed arguments in the OP and the total lack of clarification from you in the rest of the thread prior to my post. Dismissing them out of hand with snide remarks and a condescending attitude does not change that. 2.) The old market didn't have the graphs, no, but the information from the old market carried over to this one, and it is visible in the current graphs. The information is also on tektek, which goes back two years. Saying the old market didn't have the graphs so I have no way of verifying my assertion is simply a lazy rebuttal. 3.) What's happening with the prices of the DIs/MCs, super rares, and so on is, in large part, a direct response to the 2% sales fee, because, yes, people who use the market to vend do calculate the fee into their pricing. If they didn't, buying an item for 99k and selling it for 100k would be a net loss, and that's not what you want to have when you're a vendor. What the fee has induced is simply accelerated appreciation. You can call it inflation if you like, but it isn't accurate. Inflation is, as you said, 20k in two days, but almost always, prices come back down from that. If they don't? Then that's the buyer's fault for being willing to pay those prices just as much as it's the seller's fault for jacking the price up to begin with. Thing is, will this even be an issue in six months time? Doubtful. It will almost certainly, for most items, be considered a bubble, which is a point I was making repeatedly during the whining about the bag of win. Prices will stabilize, provided gaia doesn't blunder again and dump a few billion gold into the economy and spike market speculation because of it. 4.) Ticket items are the only valid counter rebuttal you made to what I said in my post. You are, however, overlooking that they were inflating before the bag of win was released because cards and slots were down, and ticket items always rise in price when that happens. Why some of them haven't come back down now that cards and slots are working again I'm not sure, but it's likely because people are lazy and therefore willing to buy them at those prices. I expect they'll eventually come back down to their usual 2-3x ticket price. They always do. And because they're commons, their pricing generally has nothing to do with the 2% sales fee, which makes them in inapplicable example in that regard. 5.) Did I say I was pissed off about the fee? No. I may not be happy having it there, but that doesn't mean it pisses me off. If it pissed me off, I'd vend in the exchange instead of in the market. With the market having finally stabilized to its presence, it's a consistent and effective gold sink, so I'd rather keep it because we need that gold sinkage. What I'm not for is increasing it, because that would speed even further the appreciation rate of limiteds and super rares, which would make it even more difficult for newer people on the site to get hold of them. That is also the reason I wasn't for the fee in the beginning, either, because I knew it would ramp appreciation. Never mind the entirely predictable bout of inflation that followed its implementation. 6.) More generally, what I fail to understand is why you even suggested raising the 2% sales fee when you concede it's not a good idea to do so and would likely be counterproductive. |
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