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i have 1 question if he/she does exsist how did god come to be known by man if god created man?
 
     
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"FromFirstToLast_Rock"
"Vryko Lakas"
"FromFirstToLast_Rock"
Now I believe that god created us all, and the bible is fact.
...
Try to back up your idea... mrgreen

You first.


Well okay.
I believe that god created us all as:
a) Where could we of come from if we didn't evolve
b) How can you explain there not being 'Intermediate Forms' Meaning the inbetween stages that must of existed if Evoloution is true.

No intermediate forms? Are you kidding?
http://www.theistic-evolution.com/pages5455.jpg
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/images/hominids2_big.jpg
     


People who think this image is kind of creepy: 17

"We must not look at goblin men,
We must not buy their fruits:
Who knows upon what soil they fed
Their hungry thirsty roots?"
"FromFirstToLast_Rock"
Well okay.
I believe that god created us all as:
a) Where could we of come from if we didn't evolve

A) We DID evolve, so that's a moot point. Other possibilities include being made from pebbles tossed behind the last survivors of an ancient flood, or being made out of water and clay by Prometheus, or coming out of a hole in the ground to find the world above and subsequently stealing food from the Ravens.

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b) How can you explain there not being 'Intermediate Forms' Meaning the inbetween stages that must of existed if Evoloution is true.

B) There are "intermediate forms." We call them Transitional Forms. We have them for horses, whales, birds, and people.
Horses: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/horses/horse_evol.html
Whales: http://www.talkorigins.org/features/whales/
Birds: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/archaeopteryx/info.html
People: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/
 
     
"Romuel"
I mean, here in M&R we have kind of a schizophrenia on the subject. We either have 'My faith tells me homos r bad' or we have Eteponge.
 
"FromFirstToLast_Rock"
b) How can you explain there not being 'Intermediate Forms' Meaning the inbetween stages that must of existed if Evoloution is true.

You mean like all those intermediate forms in human evolution? Or bird evolution? Or whale evolution? Or tetrapod evolution?
     
You'll Never Walk Alone.
You just proved devolution. ninja
 
     
 
"FromFirstToLast_Rock"
Hey heart
I used to believe that Humans evolved from Apes. That all life came from single celled Organisms called Amoebas.
Now I believe that god created us all, and the bible is fact.
I just wanted to know your opinions out there. Try to back up your idea... mrgreen


And the two are mutually exclusive why again?

The bible doesn't really go through a step by step on how man was created. That wouldn't have been all that important to the people the Book of Genesis was written for, anyways. The Book of Genesis isn't all that good when it comes to the physical creation of things, but it does an excellent job at what it was intended to do: explain beginning of Man's relationship with God.
     

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"Queen of the tigers"
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the bibles a story book, created from ppls imaginations.
bet you cant prove that.
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jesus did exsist but him n his 12 diciples were con artests
bet you cant prove that either.


I bet you can't prove that evolution isn't real...

as for not seeing evolution it takes several million years... incase you missed that memo...
 
     
 
"Queen of the tigers"
ive seen alot of monkeys. ive never seen any of them turn in to men.
I've never seen children turn into adults.

Conclusion: adults don't come from children.
     
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What immortal hand or eye
Could frame thy fearful symmetry?
"FromFirstToLast_Rock"
Hey heart
I used to believe that Humans evolved from Apes. That all life came from single celled Organisms called Amoebas.
Now I believe that god created us all, and the bible is fact.
I just wanted to know your opinions out there. Try to back up your idea... mrgreen


*throws up* Creationism makes me sick....

Why did you change your beliefs?

I believe in the theory of evolution, because of the evidence... sweatdrop
 
     
 
"Tsubasa_Gaijin"
"FromFirstToLast_Rock"
Hey heart
I used to believe that Humans evolved from Apes. That all life came from single celled Organisms called Amoebas.
Now I believe that god created us all, and the bible is fact.
I just wanted to know your opinions out there. Try to back up your idea... mrgreen


*throws up* Creationism makes me sick....

Why did you change your beliefs?

I believe in the theory of evolution, because of the evidence... sweatdrop
3nodding i too believe in evolution because of the overwhelming physical evidence. i'll believe the bible once there's physical proof other than a book
     
"Queen of the tigers"
ive seen alot of monkeys. ive never seen any of them turn in to men.
we did not come from MONKEYS, we came from apes, and australopithecus afarensis
 
     
 
"FromFirstToLast_Rock"
"Vryko Lakas"
"FromFirstToLast_Rock"
Now I believe that god created us all, and the bible is fact.
...
Try to back up your idea... mrgreen

You first.


Well okay.
I believe that god created us all as:
a) Where could we of come from if we didn't evolve
b) How can you explain there not being 'Intermediate Forms' Meaning the inbetween stages that must of existed if Evoloution is true.

in reverse order...
b) Modern species are the "intermediate forms" between past species and future species. it's the faulty assumption that evolution is done which would lead someone to think otherwise. As for the limitations of fossil evidence, the statistical odds against fossil formation are staggering, so there's no inconsistency with not having found certain fossils. Furthermore, vestigal organs (organs which are not currently used in organisms but appear to have been functional in the past) are a sign that creatures have evolved from a stage where they needed that organ to one where it is no longer useful.
a) We did evolve.

...them's the basics. I'm not much of a biologist so I'll leave the details to others.

blaugh I thought that said "Indeterminate Forms" when I first read it... 0/0 doesn't exist!!
     
O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek
to be consoled, as to console;
to be understood, as to understand;
to be loved, as to love.
Amen.

from The Prayer of St. Francis
"Bailey_bob"
i have 1 question if he/she does exsist how did god come to be known by man if god created man?

by revealing him/her/itself(ves)
 
     
O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek
to be consoled, as to console;
to be understood, as to understand;
to be loved, as to love.
Amen.

from The Prayer of St. Francis